Rohen’s
- Strengths: Fantastic color photos right from cadavers; Great brain/cranium/face specimens; Includes X-ray, Angiogram, CT and MRI images; Zooming in provides amazing level of detail; Would be very helpful for Anatomy Lab Practical.
- Weaknesses: Sometimes with real cadaver photographs it’s difficult to find what you’re looking for since everything is pretty much “flesh colored”; lacks “back of card” information.
More Rohen’s Sample Pictures:
Disclaimer: I can only talk about Rohen’s cards, but since the previews are similar and the maker is one and the same, I will assume homogeneity between the three apps.
It is outraging to me how unbelievably unprofessional Modality had become. At the hefty price of 24.99 – a third of the cost of the FULL textbook (Moore, Clemente, Rohen or even Netter) – you get about 5%. With blatant mistakes. Very good tool to learn. My gripes:
- Mislabeled structures. Ex: Mislabeled penile urethra and corpus cavernosum. What if I wanted to learn ahead and would actually memorize this?
- Lack of structures: Whereas Rohen (which I own) has on average 20-40 labels per diagram, this piece of app has 2-3. The images are often 40-70% of the complete image in the hard-copy – this makes it sometimes very hard to figure out where you are, since you are missing key landmarks (a testimony that the program was created by programmers, not medical professionals)? I have a good feeling that had they put the full image, we would be able to figure out a way to navigate it with the iPhone gestures. For that price I would appreciate to have at least 10-12 labels. Remember: this is not a 5$ app.
- Lack of details: like the reviewer noted, no information on the structures at the ‘back of the card’
- No landscape, really??!!
Hi Premedc, you’re very right that the price is a little high, as compared to other iPhone apps. But compared to the hard copy of Anatomy Flashcards it’s not a bad price. Perhaps price points on the iPhone (or other mobile devices) need to be more inline with what’s acceptable for the device rather than what’s typical for the same type of product in print form…something worth debating/discussing in a future post on this site!
As for the other comments, mislabeled structures are unacceptable. I hadn’t noticed the example you gave prior to your comment, but was able to confirm that it is indeed incorrect (the 2 labels are reversed), in Rohen’s. The other thing I noticed is that some labels are included twice on the same card almost right next to one another. Not truly a mistake, but definitely redundant.
Not having enough structures labeled is more of a subjective thing. Yes the full Rohen text has many labels, but most print flashcards only have about 5 per card, which I think is pretty much the average for these Modality apps.
Landscape is unfortunately missing from a whole slew of iPhone apps. I’m not certain why that is, but it is a very common occurence.
Thanks for your post,
alex
Thanks for the thorough review, Alex. It’s always good to hear such detailed assessments of Modality’s apps, particularly comparisons across a number of similar products. Your suggestion of being able to add notes to the structures you create is a good one–we’re evaluating the feasibility to include these items in forthcoming product updates. Also, our team is working (with our medical publishers, as necessary) to determine if there should be changes to the data. If so, Modality will include these changes in its product updates.
Thanks also to Premedc for the comments. In your point about the copy of Rohen which you own, with an average of 20-40 labels per diagram, by any chance are you referring to the Rohen’s Color Atlas of Anatomy? If so, that could explain some of your frustration–our application is based on the Rohen’s Photographic Anatomy Flash Cards, as is indicated by the title and product description of the application in the App Store.
Lastly, about price — you are correct, these apps are priced higher than the average App Store app. However, you will find that these prices often are competitive with their print or online counterparts. Many customers report purchasing our apps because they get significantly more features, convenience, and learning benefit than they would from the print or online products, for about the same cost (you may have even noticed that our Rohen’s, Moore’s and Clemente’s anatomy applications are priced about $15 less than the print versions of the products, as an introductory offer to new users).
We recognize that App Store customers have very different expectations regarding price, compared to individuals in the market for a conventional print product. We’d love to hear your thoughts on what a good study app is worth. Much of the input we get on pricing and value is shared with the entire team at Modality, from the CEO down, and it’s important to us to understand what content and features are most valuable to users like you.
Again, thank you both for your candid comments, and please don’t hesitate to contact us directly anytime with questions or feedback: [email protected]
Best,
Deirdre Mills
Modality, Inc.
Excellent review! Any chance you could post comparison screenshots of those same cards in the Netter’s app?
I suppose my question is, is the Clemente’s app essentially the same as the Netter’s one (in terms of structures depicted, organization, etc), except with Clemente’s illustrations instead of Netters?
Hi fbeaton. Thanks for the comments about the review.
We don’t currently have a review for the Netter’s Anatomy Flash Cards app (maybe we should though!), but we do have one for the Musculoskeletal Flash Cards app if you want to compare (see /ta…
But to answer your question, each app has different cards included, organized in different sections and in some cases with an emphasis on different aspects of Anatomy (i.e. for Clemente’s I mentioned that there are great images for lymphatics). So the differences between Netter’s and Clemente’s is more than just the drawings or illustration style. They are both comprehensive of all human anatomy, but there isn’t a simple one-to-one match of cards/illustrations for the two apps. Also, Netter’s has more of a text description of the anatomy on the “back of card” info if that’s something you find important.
Hope this helps…
cheers,
alex
Hi fbeaton,
Thanks for your question about Netter’s Anatomy and Clemente’s Anatomy flash cards. As both apps are by Modality, I can offer you a bit more insight. Each app is based on the print product of the same name. You can view the print products at the links I’ve listed below.
Clemente’s Anatomy Flash Cards:
http://www.lww.com/product/?97…
Netter’s Anatomy Flash Cards:
http://elsevier.com/wps/find/b…
For more information about the application features, and to view our entire catalog of health sciences apps, visit our website at http://www.modality.com.
Thanks!
Deirdre
Modality, Inc.
Thanks, Alex and Deirdre, for your comments.
I ended up going with the Clemente’s app and I’ve been really pleased with it so far. Not crazy about Moore’s illustrations, and Rohan’s emphasis on cadaver plates doesn’t help me much, since, as a nursing student, most of my anatomy practicums are done using models and diagrams, rather than cadavers.
A friend of mine has the Netter’s app so I was able to compare it with Clemente in person. They each have their strengths and weaknesses (Netter’s has better head & neck images, Clemente’s has better cardiovascular, etc.), but they’re generally analogous to each other and both are excellent choices. Well done, Modality.
Having said that, I agree with the above posters in that I would like to see the prices come down a bit. I realize the products are based on the print versions and are priced accordingly, but that’s not the way things work in the digital marketplace. Consider other print-to-digital products. A new-release hardcover novel generally retails for $25-35, but the Kindle or ePub version is usually priced around $10. Why? Because its NOT a physical product. There are no printing or distribution expenses to recoup, and no opportunity for the consumer to resell the product when he or she is done with it. You can’t loan it to a friend or, in the case of a card set, split the deck and run flash cards with a partner. A digital print product offers less freedom of use, not more.
Also, let’s be honest, educational products usually sport grossly inflated prices, which are grudgingly justified on the student’s end by the fact that textbooks and study materials can be purchased using financial aid and have a high resale value. Since the iTunes App Store doesn’t accept FA, and the resale value of an iPhone app is exactly zero, the gulf between the print and digital versions of the same product gets wider and wider.
I bought one of the Modality anatomy apps and I’m very, very happy with it, but it took MONTHS before I was able to talk myself into it, and even then it wasn’t until Modality came out with a less expensive but comparable product to the Netter’s app. I truly believe you’d sell a massive amount of units at a lower price-point. A $10 anatomy app of this quality would become an instant must-have for any healthcare student, and you’d sell a ton of copies to non-healthcare consumers, as well — just look at the numbers for lesser apps like “Human Body 3D Anatomy” or “Gray’s Anatomy Deluxe”.
You have a best product. Shame you don’t also have the best sales.
-Frank
Clemente’s, Rohen’s, and Moore’s Anatomy
I’d only owned my iPad roughly ten to twelve minutes – when I could see it – clearer than you can see this line. Eighty to ninety percent of the companies – stores and businesses around the world – having and using the iPad. And why? The iPad – is literally a legend in its own time – and nothing is going to replace it (though journalist will write stories claiming some new device or another – will give it a run for its money – just to have something to write about).
What could anyone else build? A larger one? Who wants that? A smaller one? Not happening. People are already in love with the ipads size – thinness and lack of weight. It’s a “zero-one” (super model) in the arena of electronics. It’s easy to carry everywhere. You can connect to the web – one way or another – depending on which model iPad you have – in seconds. No more having to wait till you get home to check your email – and not having to look at small phone screens – to do likewise.
With the right apps in the iPad, you can text message anyone you wish. When it comes to photos and videos – hey? Nothing whatsoever comes close to the iPad – and I’m certain – the next version out will have both the still shot camera – but HD as well – and maybe even 1080 HD at that.
Envision if you can – sitting at your favorite restaurant when your server or waitress walks up – iPad in hand. It’s just around the corner. Why? No more paper pads; no more lost pens that have run out of ink – all due to Steve Job’s brilliant iToy – the iPad. With each restaurants own menu in a special restaurant app (some sharp app designer will make) – the server will ask for your choice of food – at which time she’ll click here and click there. If you have a change of mind prior to her departure – she’ll click again and the switch is made. Upon telling her that will be all – she’ll click once more and the selected menu will appear on a large screen in front of the cook. I mean – how much easier – faster and convenient can it be?
And this medical field? Twenty six and a half minutes of using my iPad – and I was telling a friend – the Doctors – nurses and entire medical field – are going to have a field day with this: WATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Every doctor and medical person in the next 2 to 3 years – will have one – and not know how they ever did without it. It’s just as certain as you’re breathing. Saw it all – way back when.
Your speeding tickets and red light violations will be quicker and more interesting as the officer stands beside you – as the glare from the sun hitting the back of his/her iPad – shines in your face while they “write-you-up”. By then – they’ll have a printer in their cruiser that prints out the hard copy of the ticket for you to sign (or not!). All of your information about you – including photo – will appear on the iPad screen as he’s making sure you’re not wanted – and you’re – who you ID or you (or lack of) says you are. If their NCIC or DAVID reflects you’re wanted – he’ll merely have to click one spot on the special law enforcement app – that will send an emergency message to headquarters letting them know – to send back-up (10-94 in Florida) as you have a 10-29 (wanted) subject in front of you – or to send a message to any additional units currently en-route – to speed it up. Mark these words!
Every store chain – will have iPads for one service or another – but mainly inventory taking. When we walk up to a store employee these days an ask if they have some particular product in stock – most don’t know – while others – more sophisticated – have a PC they can walk to and check. Those days will be gone soon – when they all have iPads as one or two clicks – and the “in-stock” figures will be learn.
No….I saw it all within minutes of having my first iPad. It couldn’t be plainer. Eighty to ninety percent of the companies – business and stores – will have the iPad in the next 2 to 3 years – and after that – when they start coming down in price – 75% of the worlds population will have them – to do everything from watching TV – movies – scheduling appointments – ordering groceries – etc., etc., etc.
And we owe Steve Jobs a gigantic thanks for inventing – creating and manufacturing this beauty – because he too – is a legend in his own time – and one of the smartest men I have even seen (on TV) hopefully to meet one day. There’s just one tiny thing Mr. Jobs you forgot. The iPad is a Rolls Royce. But it lacks one thing – to make it five hundred times better: Wheels. The object that makes it roll. The item that makes it dance. The product that Stylus-R-Us invented – created – patented and markets: The ONLY super-soft-touch-stylus on earth.
The STYLUS-R-US stylus – unlike the PoGo and 100% of the others that require an irritating and hindering downward pressure with each icon strike – STYLUS-R-US stylus requires absolute ZERO downward pressure (ONLY IF USED PROPERLY) to activate anything click on (including your mate – well – almost) Better yet – STYLUS-R-US has two – very special styluses for the iPad – called the iWand and the Roger iWand seen on their web site at beststylusDOTcom .
No…Mr. Jobs created a beauty – no doubt. But so has STYLUS-R-US – as their styluses by far – make all others obsolete. Watch their YOUTUBE videos on their site – and you’ll see the saying – “A picture is worth a thousand words” – surface right before your eyes. Yes…in the next 2 to 3 years everyone will have the iPad – but just as certain – they’ll all have the iWands to make them dance and preserve a totally clean screen.
Netter’s Anatomy Flash Cards
DOCTORS – NURSES – HOSPITAL STAFF
USING iPADS
Stylus-R-Us has been contacted by countless hospitals around the world asking which stylus would be more beneficial for all medical staff in the hospital environment. The first thing you need to know is – all of our styluses possess the very same – no-downward-pressure tip – providing very fast and accurate data entrée.
That being the case – selecting ones stylus may be preference – which ever stylus holder you prefer. However – if push came to shove – NOT one of our high-end – more expensive models – would be recommended more than the lower priced CAMRY. And why? It’s thin – strong – light weight and deadly accurate upon striking ANY icon – or character.
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The above – is for medical personnel – who wish to have a stylus in their pocket wearing medical attire. There is another option however – that is fascinatingly awesome for the iPad – provided carrying it in a pocket – isn’t your aim.
We’re talking about the Camry sensitive – 9” Roger iWand – either in brass or aluminum – (or pink – yellow – black – green – or orange). If you have an iPad case – similar to the cases shown in both the Roger iWand and the iWand pages on this site – the Roger iWand can easily be carried in the case fold (hinge) where it will remain until opened for use. It won’t fall out due to being wedged in.
There is no doubt about it. If you possess both the Camry and Roger iWand – you will be thoroughly confused which one to take with you to work – as the Roger iWand – makes the iPad dance on its toes!
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